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 Post subject: RBA: PINK-FOOTED GEESE in Saanich
PostPosted: Jan 22 2:59 pm 
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Liron Gerstman just found 2 Pink-footed Geese in a flock of 200 Dusky Canada Geese in Saanich.

The birds are photographed and I have seen the LCD screen to confirm the ID. I will post the actual photos when received tonight.

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Map to location is 6225-6331 Lochside Dr, Central Saanich, BC

https://goo.gl/maps/mNffW9N1e1U2

and the access is on Lochside Dr. off Dooley Rd. The birds are in a grassy field on the east side of the path.

Photo of field here:
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Congrats to young birder Liron Gertsman on his amazing find! If accepted as a non-escapee, this would be a first record for the Province of British Columbia.

Cheers,
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 Post subject: Re: RBA: PINK-FOOTED GEESE in Saanich
PostPosted: Jan 22 3:10 pm 
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Jody Wells and Ann Nightingale are currently looking at the Pink-footed Geese in the same location. I know where I'm heading at 7 am :wink:.

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 Post subject: Re: RBA: PINK-FOOTED GEESE in Saanich
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Multiple observers are currently looking at the birds in the same location as of 4:40pm.

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 Post subject: Re: RBA: PINK-FOOTED GEESE in Saanich
PostPosted: Jan 22 6:31 pm 
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Congrats Liron! Incredible find!

Unfortunately, these birds are likely escapees as there is no records in North America outside the Northeast.
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 Post subject: Re: RBA: PINK-FOOTED GEESE in Saanich
PostPosted: Jan 22 6:48 pm 
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Actually that is incorrect Cole.

They may not be escapees as they are rare to non existent in captivity in North America.

2 birds showed up in WA in 2003 and it was very controversial. The birds ultimately did not pass as accepted due to uncertain origin but many top birders in WA including some of those on the committee felt they were wild.

Many WA birders have it on their life and WA state list.

I suspect that this WA record may be revisited now due to these 2 BC birds. Most people thought they were likely wild geese but at the time they were still pretty rare in New England and Eastern Canada without any records in between. Since there has been a band recovery of birds banded in Europe found in North America (in Quebec). Their numbers in North America continue to climb. These birds probably flew over the northwest passage.

I see no reason why these birds would be ruled out immediately as escapees.

Here is a link where you can read about the WA State record on page 42:

http://wos.org/documents/WBRC/Past%20Reports/WBRC7.pdf

The only and closest breeder to us that I can find is in Michigan:

http://whitefeatherfarm.com/price-list.php

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 Post subject: Re: RBA: PINK-FOOTED GEESE in Saanich
PostPosted: Jan 22 6:54 pm 
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:D Either if they are or not escapees, that is an incredible find!!!

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 Post subject: Re: RBA: PINK-FOOTED GEESE in Saanich
PostPosted: Jan 22 6:55 pm 
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Mel is correct. There is a very good chance these Pink-footed Geese are of wild origins. Of course bands would say otherwise.


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 Post subject: Re: RBA: PINK-FOOTED GEESE in Saanich
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Hi Mike,

These birds are not banded.

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 Post subject: Re: RBA: PINK-FOOTED GEESE in Saanich
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a few vid/photo doc from today
ImageRecords....First Purple NOW Pink !! by Jody Wells, on Flickr

ImageFirst Purple NOW Pink FEET !! by Jody Wells, on Flickr

ImageCropped Record Shots PFGO by Jody Wells, on Flickr

ImageTri Species by Jody Wells, on Flickr

ImageVid. Doc PFGO by Jody Wells, on Flickr


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 Post subject: Re: RBA: PINK-FOOTED GEESE in Saanich
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Awesome shots Jody!!! They are a beautiful goose.

Congrats, I so hope they are there for us tomorrow!

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 Post subject: Re: RBA: PINK-FOOTED GEESE in Saanich
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Great Find Liron !!!

Great to see you there as well....looking forward to see what i am sure will be some of your phenomenal photos (as usual:) of these beauties!!

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 Post subject: Re: RBA: PINK-FOOTED GEESE in Saanich
PostPosted: Jan 22 7:58 pm 
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Hi All

Just a cautionary (friendly) reminder that the fields South of Martindale (along Lochside Trail and towards Welch Rd ) are private property and we should be respectful of the owner's expressed wishes that no one wander onto the fields.



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 Post subject: Re: RBA: PINK-FOOTED GEESE in Saanich
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Great points Jody.

I should have put that on my original message. I will add that to the Bird Alert.

Some more food for thought:

Pink-footed Goose populations have risen significantly over the past 50 years, due largely to increased protection from shooting on its wintering grounds. As a result the number of records in eastern North America have soared in the past 30 years.

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 Post subject: Re: RBA: PINK-FOOTED GEESE in Saanich
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I am getting several emails about these birds. The birds are of uncertain origin. The BC bird records committee will be the ones to determine if it is accepted or denied.

I gave my personal opinion that these birds should not be automatically dismissed as escapees. Steve Howell in the Rare Birds of North America says on p49 `The species is generally rare in captivity and these birds may have been wild` and that sentence is in reference to the WA State 2003 record.

My only job as the Coordinator of the BC Rare Bird Alert is to report the birds. I do so in order that people can decide for themselves if they want to chase it or not.

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 Post subject: Re: RBA: PINK-FOOTED GEESE in Saanich
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Just saw that these birds were first photographed by John Peetsma on Jan 18th in the same location. At the time though there were identified as Greater-white Fronted Geese.

http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S33773892

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