- Dec 04 10:29 am
Jeremy, thank you for your input. In my original post, I had ID'd it as a Northern, but it was technology that got me thinking " hmm I wonder, not likely Loggerhead but..."
Yup I had checked on E bird and saw the sighting this past May and back in 2015 around Hope
I guess as a beginning birder I don't have the confidence of more experienced birders to make a quick definitive ID
I suppose also, my error was not in listing the "old fashioned ID with a field guide" I had done. Maybe I am just using the wrong guides.
• Audubon doesn't mention a whitish patch for either species
• Peterson doesn't mention white patches on wings or rump at all for the Northern but does mention white wing patches for the Loggerhead
* Stokes ( p 484-485) only mentions white as part of the flight description. "White base of primaries create distinct patch above and below" Exactly the same wording for both species.
not one photo in there showing a white rump patch.
• Cornells website only mentions white wing patches for the Northern and for the Loggerhead is says "The tail is black with white corners; the wings are black with white at the base of the primaries that form a small “handkerchief” spot when the wing is closed "
Hence, the little doubts that crept in to my ID
All that being said, thanks for the heads up about the white rump patch. I guess real life observations will tend to be more accurate than a guide
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